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#1
FIREARMS & OPTICS / Re: Browning Firearms
November 03, 2015, 06:47:41 PM
Hi Paul !
   Know this is an old thread, though this might be too much to post on site, ……..
 I too have a Browning Safari, chambered in 270 Win. The rifle came with an old Bushnell Scope Chief with the “Command Post” setup. Rifle shoots  great, have gotten a lot of comments/questions when I take it out to the range. Lots of “Likes” from the older crowd, and “what is that” from the younger crowd. My kids have already laid claim to it when the time comes !
 (pictures here: http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/PaulyP1698/slideshow/)
  Having problems posting pics on this site.
Found mine advertised on a web site, with the seller actually local – how’s that for luck. I too had a heck of a time finding out just when it was made. It took me months to find out. I kept getting conflicting information form people and places. I was collecting pictures of any browning I could find (that the serial number could be identified), trying to bring some justification to the information I was accumulating. My rifle also has the letter “L” proceeding the serial numbers.
Have more pictures if interested.



My serial number.
 (pictures here: http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/PaulyP1698/slideshow/)

I finally had a gentlemen email me with information that I believed to be correct.
Below is what he had sent me:
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From:
//www.BrowningCollector.com


Your Safari Grade was actually made in late 1961. Browning had not yet went to the year code with the Safari i.e. until sometime between your number L 11420 and serial number 2 L 11856 (.308 small ring). Serial number L 11557 is the last serial number I show for 1961 made Safari Grades (so far).

Side note: The Medallion and Olympian Grades all had the year code prefix in 1961 as 1 X and you couldn't tell the model you had, Medallion or Olympian, by the serial number because both had X as the prefix. Browning/FN changed that in 1962. Hope this helps.

If you go to the website below you will find pix and a story about serial #1. The first Browning Safari Grade Bolt Action Rifle made in 1959. Later this year there will some more pix and story about two other rifles we can't talk about yet, but will soon.
//www.BrowningCollector.com

My dad purchased his first Safari Grade in 1964 and hunted with it in 6-7 States with it. We have a lot of Belgium Browning Rifles, but that .270 means the most to me. The A70L you reference... The best explanation I've come with is that the A stands for Arnold in Missouri where Browning repair facility is. I have 50+ pages of Browning serial numbers I've kept track of over the years and have never seen a pre 1966 rifle with the extra letter in the serial number until after 1966 which is when Browning moved from Washington St. in St. Louis to Arnold. Not sure if th A serial numbers are correct or parts guns.
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The Browning is what got me into the mauser action made rifles. I have picked up a few more - ya, even the one with the firing pin spring problem I posted !!!
 I have 2 of the JC Higgins FN actioned in 30.06, an H & R Ultra Bolt Action FN actioned in 300 Win Mag, of course the 270 Browning Safari, and I picked up a Parker Hale 1200 in 243 that I like. The Parker was what brought me to the site.
  I’m always looking for another that I can sneak past the little woman without incurring too much pain. Still looking to pick up 2 more of the JC Higgins models. It would give me 2 more winter projects, and I would end up with one each for the kids.
  I have a few Remington’s in the case. I like an old model 722 in 257 Roberts I picked up not too long ago. Gave a model 700 in stainless & synthetic to the daughter, a 30.06 M-760 to the one son, and an old 257 Roberts M-760 to the other son.
   Not sure which of the rifles I will use this upcoming Pa. deer season, but it will sure be one of the older ones. I know the kids like the synthetic stocked stainless gear, but the wood and blue are to my liking. I will give credit to the reduced weight of the new rifles. Lugging the older ones does take task with ones shoulder !
Anyhow, just thought I would put my 2 cents in.
Have a Good One !
          – Don’t do anything dumb !

Pauly P.
#2
RELOADING / Re: "Cracked Necks"
August 26, 2015, 10:11:29 AM
Ah, Gentlemen !

  Thanks to all for the input. I have just finished loading up a box of 20 once fired that were acquired at the same time as the other box that gave me all the problems. I annealed as usual, (just in case) then FL resized and loaded without incident. I am arriving at the same conclusion of "unusually brittle / bad metallurgy" of the previously sized cases. The box just completed was of the same manufacture (R-P) as before and acted normally as expected. So, for now .. I'm going to chalk it up to a bad batch. I've had necks crack before, but on brass that was loaded quite a few times, and with semi heavy loads. This past outcome was totally unexpected!!!
 Thanks again to all !

PaulyP
#3
RELOADING / Re: "Cracked Necks"
August 26, 2015, 04:56:13 AM
The brass is all R-P. I can't attest to the actual age of the brass, it was given to me after it's first use. I had cleaned and loaded it by my records, almost a month later. So, new to me in '93 - actual mfg. date no clue. I did anneal the remaining 15 before sizing and still ended up with the cracks. I don't usually anneal until after the 3rd loading. I just hope the remaining brass I received during at same time, doesn't end up similar !
I'll have to try another box and see if I get the same results.
Thanks !
P
#4
RELOADING / "Cracked Necks"
August 25, 2015, 01:28:19 PM
Gentlemen !
 ... Anyone ever run into this problem?
   I pulled down some 30.06's that I noticed a bit of green at the neck / bullet junction on one of them. These were once fired cases! I had loaded them up back in "93, but never got around to shooting them. Anyhow, I pulled them, removed primer, cleaned with stainless pins in tumbler, and then annealed before I re-sized them. I neck sized the first 3 with 2 of them cracking, then decided to full length re-size the balance. Ended up with 15 of 18 cases showing signs of cracking, or actually cracked. You can see the results ( 11 worst) in the pictures. Even had one pull apart in the sizer die.
  So, was this the results of the corrosion, (which I only saw on one cartridge) or something else?
 FYI - never cleaned with any ammonia containing cleaner - stored in the original styrofoam/cardboard box - in a cabinet with other ammunition.
 Go Figure !!!  Any ideas?
Thanks !
PaulyP
#5
FIREARMS & OPTICS / Re: Bolt lift resistance
July 07, 2015, 02:05:10 PM
Well ... received new spring. Sure it is the wrong one! Couldn't get bolt back together with it - 7" long!!! Anyhow, cut 1 loop off of old spring and got out with it today. Thought it might be too soft, but it lit everything up I put in it.
Pictures/targets here:http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/PaulyP1698/slideshow/Targets
Can't find the iron sight targets - moved everything while installing new furnace.
 Wish I had found my old sight in tool - because I can't bore sight to save my behind !
Just used an old scope (3 x 9 Tasco) that I had laying around - works, but need something else.
 I should have bought the extended rings - scope too far away.
 Anyhow - with some more effort on my part, I'll have it where I want it.
Thanks for the help !
paulyp
#6
FIREARMS & OPTICS / Re: Bolt lift resistance
June 27, 2015, 04:19:04 AM
Apologize for the pictures - I corrected the private/public error. You should be able to access now. Sorry !
No spring as of yet. Soon I hope.
PaulyP
#7
FIREARMS & OPTICS / Re: Bolt lift resistance
June 22, 2015, 06:32:02 PM
Rick,
   Thanks !
   I really thought spring, but couldn't for the life of me figure out why !
    I have ordered a spring from Wolff. Should be here in a few days.
 Here's another link if your interested. Shows before and after work on the rifle.
http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/PaulyP1698/library/JCH%202%20before%20and%20after?sort=9&page=1
  Rember, I'm only a rookie at this!

  You guys interested in targets, I have a few I'll post. With open sights this rifle has promise. Once I scope it, should be a keeper.
   I'll post the pics of the other rifle I worked on last winter. This one was supposed to be this years project but I jumped on it too soon. Have to find another (she'll kill me!!!)
PaulyP
#8
FIREARMS & OPTICS / Re: Bolt lift resistance
June 21, 2015, 05:46:43 PM
Thank You !

  What gave it (bad spring) away? I couldn't tell by just looking at it.
  Let me get my hands on a new spring and I will follow up !
  Thanks again !!!
#9
FIREARMS & OPTICS / Re: Bolt lift resistance
June 21, 2015, 02:51:04 PM
Well ....
 I switched out the bolt shroud assembly and .... It's still hard to lift on the c/open turn! I couldn't tell if there was any difference between the 2 setups.
 Can the spring be too strong and still be the correct size?
#10
FIREARMS & OPTICS / Re: Bolt lift resistance
June 21, 2015, 01:04:34 PM
Not possible, well......... !
 I have included a link to the pictures. http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/PaulyP1698/library/JC%20Higgins%20bolt%20parts?sort=3&page=1
Measurements are all OK. Bolt shroud turns on & off easy.
I have somewhere an old shroud with a low profile safety. I'm going to try it one time, and at least it will rule one thing or another good or bad!
Thanks !
#11
FIREARMS & OPTICS / Re: Bolt lift resistance
June 21, 2015, 08:34:33 AM
Yes it's a c/on action. I bought it to restore and pass on to one of the grand kids. I have an identical rifle that takes less than half the effort to operate the bolt than this one. If I swap the bolts from rifle to rifle, the "hard" bolt shows the same problem in the other rifle, and the "soft" bolt remains the same as before. There has to be something different! .... And I can't find it  .... YET !!!
Thanks !
#12
FIREARMS & OPTICS / Bolt lift resistance
June 20, 2015, 07:25:36 AM
.... Looking for help on a bolt lift dilemma I am experiencing.
I have an FN action 30.06 that when the bolt is initially lifted, the felt resistance seems to be excessive.
Once the cocking action has been completed, the heavy resistance has dropped considerably. Once the trigger is pulled (on  an empty chamber) the resistance is again back.
I have polished any and all surfaces that experience movement with or against another surface, on the bolt and in the receiver to no avail.
If I remove the firing pin/spring from the bolt and reassemble, the resistance is gone.
 With that known, I have to assume that the spring is the culprit. The pin itself, the ends of the spring, and where the spring rests on the pin has been polished.
Is a spring replacement of lesser strength a remedy?  Is there something I have overlooked ?
So, anyone have any enlightenment that might help?
TIA !
PaulyP
#13
FIREARMS & OPTICS / Re: Any information on this?
March 29, 2014, 06:03:01 PM
Kind of goes with what I found on the place that imported the rifle into USA:
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/jackalope/2010/08/mandalls_shooting_supplies_mac.php
It's an article on the store (now closed) that sold the Alpine rifles and others.
Just an FYI.
 
paulyp
#14
FIREARMS & OPTICS / Re: Any information on this?
March 29, 2014, 05:37:15 AM
Ok, here's what I found this morning !
 
I was rooting around, and in a 1976 Gun Digest book I found:
Alpine bolt action:
Euro walnut, full p.g. and monti carlo, checkered p.g. and fore-end: rubber recoil pad: whiteline spacers: sling swivels.
Made by Firearms Co. Ltd. in England: imported by Mandall Shooting Supplies.
Custom grade: $189.95
Supreme grade: $199.95 (better wood & checkering) WOW! $10 more !
 
Still looks like it's of parker origin, or a good clone !
 
If I get it I'll let you know for sure - still debating on it !
 
Spring finally came to western Pa. - Have a good one !
 
paulyp
#15
FIREARMS & OPTICS / Any information on this?
March 28, 2014, 03:30:37 PM
Found this rifle for sale.
Callan Western Alpine Model Supreme .300 win mag
Sure looks like a Parker.
Made by Firearms Co. England.
3 pics uploaded - hope you can see.
Anyone have a clue, on just what it is?
 
Thanks Gang !
paulyp