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Shadowrider/.243

Thanks for taking time and posting a reply. I will send SKIP a PM today. Back in 1994 I planned a hunt in the Riggins/Whitebird area, the biologists were a little tough to get a hold of, but very friendly and helpful when I did speak with them. Right now I'm trying to narrow a specific area with the unit, so now's probably the time to give them a call; next is the ordering of maps. Seems like a long time away, but it will sneak up on me quick.  Thanks again for the suggestions!

JC

Hey guys/gals,

I am currently planning a do-it-yourself deer hunt in Idaho for 2006. I am consentrating on unit 10A, specifically around Weippe, Pierce and/or Orofino. I was wondering if anyone out there is familiar with these areas and would be willing to shed some info. I want to make clear I am not asking for specifics at all, just a good starting point. I started reseaching in September and have compiled quite a bit of info and now want to corroborate with guys/gals in the field. I have hunted out of state 6 times and have planned each one, but any and all info helps. Hope everyone had a good season! Thanks for any help!

JM

Deer: Winchester Model 70 .270 W/130 gr nosler handloads
Elk: Winchester Model 70 .300 Win Mag W/180 gr nosler handloads.

Both are topped with a Leupold 3-9x40 vari X II.

Same for me!

The re-count issue is a very hot topic up here. Most people view Washingtion state as a Republican state, this is far from the case. Washington is a very liberal state that has not had a Republican Governor in many years. This is large in part to Seattle which is heavily Democratic.  ROSSI's opponent was our Attorney General for the past several years during Governor Locke's last two terms. She will not give it up, even after ROSSI has been certified as the winner. ROSSI will be a great change for the state, the problem he will have is, the legislation is Democratic majority and are not happy with his election, hence the re-count and the re-count and I'm sure another re-count! It will sure be interesting to see how it all turns out.

Jeff

My first deer was a 2x2 blacktail buck in 1984, I was 11 Y/O.

The AP released the name of the suspect as, Chai Vang; they haven't, and probably won't mention anything about his criminal record for a few days. However, as AzKiote mentioned above, if in fact he was is a felon, he would have been forbidden to possess/own any firearms. Although, since this is a case of mutiple counts of homicide and attempt homicide, the madatory firearm sentencing enhancement under both federal law and most state law will be insignificant anyway. Point being, the charges will put him away for life, or if found to be of special circumstances, the death penalty can apply (depending on Wisconsin's laws).

This is a very tragic event for the victims and families, I feel deeply for them. It also  tragic for all hunters/outdoorsmen throughout the country; the anti-hunters/gun owners will be blaming everything but the cold hearted S.O.B. who comitted this crime. I sure hope the authorities of Wisconsin, including, police; prosecutors; politicians; citizens (Jurors); ect make this case what it is, an isolated and rare occurence. They need to make an example out of the suspect and in no way place blame on anyone or anything but him!I have been a police officer for 6 1/2 years and never get use to this type of indecent crime(s), especially when it effects my passion, which keeps me sane and away from my job when off duty.  Sorry to rant and rave, I know I'm preaching to the choir! Hope you all have/had a good day.


* I feel I must add, that my opinion is based on the assumption that the suspect committed this crime out of malicious intent. In other words, I am not condeming him before all the facts are released, and in no way am I saying he is guilty without his due process.  There is of course, two sides to a story. However, if he did do this out of malicious intent, then my opinion stands!   :D

Jeff

This is absolutely unreal! It's all over CNN, Fox News ect. thought you all may be interested as well.

JC



5 killed, 3 hurt in Wis. hunting dispute

By JOSHUA FREED

BIRCHWOOD, Wis. ? A deer hunter who apparently intruded on private property killed five other hunters who had been staying in a nearby cabin and wounded three more during the opening weekend of deer season, authorities said.

A 36-year-old man was arrested Sunday afternoon when he came out of the woods, sheriff's officials said. Two of the wounded were in critical condition Monday.

Deputy Jake Hodgkinson identified the suspect as Chai Vang but would give no details. Vang is from St. Paul, Minn., said Paul Schnell, a spokesman for the St. Paul police department.

The shooting started when two hunters returning to their rural cabin saw the suspect in one of their hunting platforms in a tree, Sawyer County Chief Deputy Tim Zeigle said. The platforms or "tree stands" allow hunters to see deer without being easily seen themselves.

Both of those hunters were wounded and one of them radioed friends at the cabin a quarter-mile away. Other members of their group responded and they also were shot, he said.

"It's absolutely nuts. Why? Over sitting in a tree stand?" asked Zeigle.

Zeigle said the suspect was "chasing after them and killing them," with a SKS 7.62 mm semiautomatic rifle, a common hunting weapon. Wisconsin's statewide deer gun hunting season started Saturday and lasts for nine days.

About 20 shots were fired but it was unclear if any of the hunters had fired at the suspect or who might have shot first, Zeigle said. There was just one gun among the eight people killed or wounded, he said.

The dead included a a teenage boy and a woman, and a father and son, Zeigle said. Some of the victims were shot more than once. All five were from the Rice Lake area, about 15 miles southwest of Birchwood in northwestern Wisconsin, he said.

Authorities found two bodies near each other and the others were scattered over 100 yards.

The suspect, who did not have a compass, got lost in the woods and two other hunters who didn't know about the shootings helped him find his way out, Zeigle said.

The man was arrested when he emerged from the woods and a Department of Natural Resources officer recognized the deer license on his back from a description given by one of the shooting victims, Zeigle said.

The man was out of ammunition, he said.

One of the injured hunters was in critical condition Monday at St. Joseph's Hospital in Marshfield. Another was in critical condition and a third in stable condition at Lakeview Medical Center in Rice Lake.

Hunter Bill Wagner, 72, of Oshkosh was about two miles away near Deer Lake with a party of about 20 other hunters when they heard sirens, planes and helicopters and discovered roads in the area had been barricaded.

"When you're hunting, you don't expect somebody to try to shoot you and murder you," Wagner said. "You have no idea who is coming up to you."

"We're all old, dyed-in-wool hunters," he said. "We wouldn't go home because of this, but we will keep it in our minds. We're not forgetting it."

How bout the simple .270 with 130 grain? If you are considering a .308 and not going to be hunting Elk or other large boned big game, it's hard to beat the accurancy, velocity and flat shooting ability.

JC

Well good luck to you! The bucks should still be in the rut and running with the does.   I'm heading down near Morton for two days. Gonna set my standards a little higher this year and look for a good mature buck.

My partner and I boated into a remote stretch of the Snake River for the 4th straight year. We back-packed in and hunted for 5 days. Saw less deer than previous years, but we each passed up 3x3's, so I shouldn't complain I guess. Let us know it goes.

JC

RR,

Yeah, good to see another Washingtonian.  Living on the Penninsula you must be getting ready for late buck???

JC

Az,

I have hunted Arizona twice. Once in 1996 for Javelina around Paysen, then again in 1997 for Mule Deer on the Mogollon Rim(not to sure on the spelling), Tonto Nation Forrest. My wife was born and raised in Phx and has a plush cabin bordering Nat. Forrest Service land. I have scouted hard for Elk since 1993 and have seen some tremendous bulls, several in the 370-380+ class, but cannot get drawn. If you hang around the Phx Valley, it's hard to imagine that the state has that vast mountainous region with tremendous big game opportunities (if you can draw tags!). I've have applied for the Az. Strip several time to no avail as well.

JC

Thanks for the welcome! I have been super busy with work the last week, I'm gonna try and be more involved now that big game season' s over.

JC

I grew up on the westside in Renton; currently live on the south hill in Puyallup. Although, I was lucky enough to have spent most of my time in the south Central around Cle Elum/Easton. We have a cabin with large acreage at 5000-5700 ft elevation.  I have hunted that region since I was a kid. Omak is a beatutiful area, In fact we fished Wannacut this year, not too far from Omak.

I just happened to run across this forum today. After looking it over thought I jump aboard.  I live in Washington State and have been an avid big game hunter for 20 years. I'm looking forward to all of  the stories and adventures. Good hunting the remainder of the season!

J.C.