Decent Camo for Pine country

[Sandhills Guru]

After chasing turkeys for the last 4 plus weeks in pine and cedar country here.  And seeing just about every pattern of camo there is in these conditions I have come to the conclusion that no one makes a good concealing camo for these conditions.   Or have yet to see it or find it.
 
Has anyone else found a pattern they like in cedar/pine country?

[Clueless]

I never wear camo of any kind.  For one reason most animals don't recognize color.
 
I typically dress to suit the weather.  Mostly jeans, oldest lucky hunting shirt, jacket.
 
In the winter I wear just an old pair of coveralls or bibs and a flannel shirt.
 
We're required to wear our blaze orange.  Safer around here to wear some orange during deer season whether we are hunting or just hanging out around the house.
 
Every year there are  "non hunters" killed by deer hunters in our area.

[buckshot roberts]

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http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=416088
 
they have what yalooking for, Ron

 
 
 

[22hornet]

Clueless, I am suprised that you don't wear any camo but if it works for you, no problem.
I find that any camo is good camo, it doesn't really matter what type you wear as long as you break up your outline.
For example, I wear Auscam, my cousin wears mossy oak and my uncle wears real tree camo. And it all works fine.
Its the big 5 that will give you away quicker than bad camo gear.
Shine, Shape, Shadow, Silhouette, Movement.
If you hunt under the R licence system here you are required to wear something blaze orange. Most people, myself included wear a blaze orange hat. At least I won't get shot in the head!
And how many people are killed by deer hunters each year? How many hunters per acre are there for this to happen?

[Clueless]

People including other hunters are killed every year in my area.  My area is thick with trees and underbrush.
 
How many hunters are there?  I can't give you a number but there are many, many deer hunters, turkey hunters and small game hunters in my area.
 
Last year alone there were 5 people killed by deer hunters.  One man was killed sitting in his tree stand...shooter thought he was a turkey.  He was dressed in Camo.
 
A fly fisherman was killed.  He had on camo and  a blaze orange vest and was fly fishing in a near by creek.  Deer hunter shot him thinking he was a deer since he was moving as he cast out his line.
 
A woman was killed working in her flowers.  She had on gardening gloves and deer hunter thought she was a deer.  IN her OWN yard.
 
I'd have to look to be sure but I can pretty well estimate there were over 1800 deer harvested in my area last year.  Not in my county but the county I hunt which happens to be one of the smallest counties in TN.  I think the county is #98 in county size for TN.
 
These 1800+ account only for deer checked out at he "check out station" .  Doesn't count the locals who hit the woods every day and kill many more deer than they are allowed.  They hunt their own property.  And property of friends.
 
Last year I was talking to a fellar who had killed 6 8point, 14 doe, 2 12point during deer season.  Only but one was checked out.
 
Are there a lot of deer?  Bet your bottom dollar the deer are plentiful!!
 
Hunters out of state do not have any idea the deer popoulation of TN!!
 
Around my home alone we estimate we have 3 large herds of deer.  At least 3 good sized bucks and each buck has around 20doe.
 
We live in the city limits and fire arms are not allowed except for a 410shotgun or a BB gun.  
 
In TN the deer hunter hunts with a 30-30 or a 30.06.  And sometimes a hand gun of their choice.
 
So why would I want to blend in and wear camo.  When every move I make could be a move to get me killed.  I'm much better off on the ground in normal clothes and blaze vest.  At least to the hunter across the ridge I'm not near the color of a deer.

[Clueless]

People including other hunters are killed every year in my area. My area is thick with trees and underbrush.
 
How many hunters are there? I can't give you a number but there are many, many deer hunters, turkey hunters and small game hunters in my area.
 
Last year alone there were 5 people killed by deer hunters. One man was killed sitting in his tree stand...shooter thought he was a turkey. He was dressed in Camo.
 
A fly fisherman was killed. He had on camo and a blaze orange vest and was fly fishing in a near by creek. Deer hunter shot him thinking he was a deer since he was moving as he cast out his line.
 
A woman was killed working in her flowers. She had on gardening gloves and deer hunter thought she was a deer. IN her OWN yard.
 
I'd have to look to be sure but I can pretty well estimate there were over 1800 deer harvested in my area last year. Not in my county but the county I hunt which happens to be one of the smallest counties in TN. I think the county is #98 in county size for TN.
 
These 1800+ account only for deer checked out at he "check out station" . Doesn't count the locals who hit the woods every day and kill many more deer than they are allowed. They hunt their own property. And property of friends.
 
Last year I was talking to a fellar who had killed 6 8point, 14 doe, 2 12point during deer season. Only but one was checked out.
 
Are there a lot of deer? Bet your bottom dollar the deer are plentiful!!
 
Hunters out of state do not have any idea the deer popoulation of TN!!
 
Around my home alone we estimate we have 3 large herds of deer. At least 3 good sized bucks and each buck has around 20doe.
 
We live in the city limits and fire arms are not allowed except for a 410shotgun or a BB gun.
 
In TN the deer hunter hunts with a 30-30 or a 30.06. And sometimes a hand gun of their choice.
 
So why would I want to blend in and wear camo. When every move I make could be a move to get me killed. I'm much better off on the ground in normal clothes and blaze vest. At least to the hunter across the ridge I'm not near the color of a deer.

[Daryl (deceased)]

If I had to wear blaze orange to keep from being killed by an idiot, simply because there were too many idiots in the woods, I'm pretty sure I'd just quit hunting.
 
Arizona doesn't require blaze orange, but I've used it in Colorado (required).  Never felt in danger; just wore it because the law required it.
 
To answer the original question, I like the plain ol' green camo military BDU's in the pines.  it works as well as anything I've found, and it lasts for years.
 
Daryl

[buckshot roberts]

When I started hunting they were not law's about hunters orange, I use it when it is required, like Daryl I use the old army OD green's, and a few woolrich shirt's, in red and black. Ron

[Clueless]

I have one set of camo given to me as a Christmas present.  
I've never worn the pants and the shirt together.  Usually the shirt with a pair of jeans.  The pants with a brown shirt. :laugh:  Never worn either hunting.  But works great for horse shows and rodeos.
 
I have admit we do have "idiots" running the roads in vehicles shooting out of Mercedes, Jaguars and Hummers.  They will shoot at anything moving.  Pull up, stop and start shooting.
 
Frankly I've always thought of Camo as being a waste of money.  Much too expensive when a checkered flannel shirt or any long sleeve shirt(depending on the weather) will do with any pair of pants.
 
These Camo clothing, furniture, and other item companies are making a killing off hunters and their families.
 
What does a deer, turkey, bear or anything else care what you are wearing when out in the woods hunting. ???
 
I mean, like are we going hunting, fishing or are we going to a "Wildlife Beauty Pagent"?:laugh:

[Daryl (deceased)]

What does a deer, turkey, bear or anything else care what you are wearing when out in the woods hunting. ???

I mean, like are we going hunting, fishing or are we going to a "Wildlife Beauty Pagent"?:laugh:

I'm quite sure they don't care, or even notice.  If they spot a human, most of them will leave pretty quickly no matter what that human is wearing.
 
Unless, of course, they're so used to human presence that they don't care.  Even then, thhey won't care what you're wearing.
 
That all said, the idea of camoflage isn't to win a beauty contest.  Good camo is designed to blend into the surrounding environment, and some are better at it than others.
 
In other words, it's not a fashion statement for the deer; it's to help keep the deer from seeing you if you use it properly.
 
And it works.  If it didn't work to help a human blend into the surroudings, the military wouldn't be using it.
 
I don't generally wear camoflage when I'm big game hunting.  If I do, it's more for all the pockets on BDU clothing than for the camo affect.
 
I DO use it when calling coyotes, hunting turkeys and such.  Not that it's required for success, but it does help keep a hunter concealed.
 
I've also used a grey/blue checkered jacket for the same purpose, and it works well enough much of the time, but it's still a form of camo IMO, since it helps break up the human outline.
 
Daryl

[Clueless]

:smiley: It was a "tongue in cheek" statement Daryl.  Brought on by the fact we went furniture shopping looking for new Living Room furniture.  The furniture store we visited had too many to count, Camo furniture of every description.  I asked "ya sell a lot of this stuff" and the sales person said "Yes a LOT!! Everyday!!"
 
I understand military dress this day and age.  They wear their Camo dress everywhere..shopping, eating out in restaurants.  The military wear what the military tell them to wear on any given day.  It separates them from Civilians.  And they wear what ever color they tell them to wear on any given day.
 
But you will not see the Black Ops guys dressed in black anywhere!! Off base/post
 
You won't see them dressed in Afghanistan wear or Iraq/Iran wear anywhere!! Off base/post
 
And ya won't see the Delta guys dressed in Delta wear off base/post
 
And you won't see them dressed in hunting camo. :smiley:
 
I can go to the Military Commissary and buy (cheap) military wear.
 
I can't speak for all hunters in my area...I can speak for most the locals.  We do not wear Camo!!
We don't want to be mistaken for military.
 
Being mistaken for military can be almost as dangerous as being mistaken for deer.
Especially if the military is on maneuvers.
 
I guess it just depends on where you live and what you feel comfortable wearing hunting or fishing.

[22hornet]

Not much chance of being mistaken for the military over here. Exercises are usually conducted on military ranges that are closed to the public.
Hunters I know don't even wear their cams while driving to their hunting site. They get changed when they get there.
I have found that wearing cams has increased my abilitiy to stalk game. Even when out "still" hunting animals have walked right up, something that hasn't happened before.
 
Have to say though, if that many people were killed while out hunting, even by accident, hunting in OZ would be banned in a second!
What happens to the offenders? Are they brought up on charges?
 
Sorry to turn the thread but I do find this incredible! What ever happend to properly identifying your target before shooting? Once you press that trigger you can't call the bullet back!

[Clueless]

Yes 22hornet they are brought up on charges.  Some have faced the Max penalty for idiotic mistakes.
 
Just because we have idiots running around deer huntng doesn't mean we are going to give up our guns. :smiley:
 
The strange thing is everyone now has to take a course and pass the course to get a hunting license.  Surprising hey? :smiley:  Us old timers are safe hunters..never take a sound shot, always look for what we are seeing to be sure we are seeing what we think we are seeing...
 
The only time I really feel like "Killing" a human being is when I hear a sound shot go over my head.  Walk up to that person and ask "what ya shooting at?"  They say "heard somethin..."  Makes me want to take my chances and KILL!!!:eek:

[Daryl (deceased)]

I can't speak for all hunters in my area...I can speak for most the locals. We do not wear Camo!!
We don't want to be mistaken for military.

Being mistaken for military can be almost as dangerous as being mistaken for deer.
Especially if the military is on maneuvers.

I guess it just depends on where you live and what you feel comfortable wearing hunting or fishing.

Well, I live right close to Ft Huachuca, and they do have military maneuvers.  They're held on base though, and there's absolutely no chance of going hunting in that area during the maneuvers.
 
I've hunted quite a bit wearing military clothing, and have never been mistaken for military.  They have to wear it a certain way, and they have patches and emblems on their clothing that I don't have.  Now they're wearing digital camo here, rather than the old green or day desert stuff that I wear.
 
Arizona doesn't require blaze orange clothing.  We also have one of the lowest hunter/accident rates in the country.  I've been here my entire life, and I can only remember two accidents reported in the state.  Not that there haven't been other incidents, but they aren't common at all.
 
Both happened at almost the same time in the fall of the same year.  One involved an LEO who shot someone during turkey season; the other was caused by someone who'd just taken a state certified firearms safety course.  Go figure, huh?
 
Arizona only requires the safety course for big game hunters 14 years old and under, but they encourage others to take it.  They'll even give you a permenant bonus point in the big game drawings for taking it.
 
Daryl

[RatherBHuntin]

The military wear what the military tell them to wear on any given day. It separates them from Civilians. And they wear what ever color they tell them to wear on any given day.

Only during duty hours

But you will not see the Black Ops guys dressed in black anywhere!! Off base/post
 
You won't see them dressed in Afghanistan wear or Iraq/Iran wear anywhere!! Off base/post

Ther'ye not called black ops because of their uniform

And ya won't see the Delta guys dressed in Delta wear off base/post

And just what do they wear? If they were Delta you wouldn't know it
 

I can go to the Military Commissary and buy (cheap) military wear.
.

Not at the commissary

I can't speak for all hunters in my area...I can speak for most the locals. We do not wear Camo!!
We don't want to be mistaken for military.
Being mistaken for military can be almost as dangerous as being mistaken for deer.
Especially if the military is on maneuvers.
.

huh???? You think they are running around LBL with live ammo?