Ted Kennedy has a brain tumor..

Started by Clueless, May 20, 2008, 10:44:15 AM

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Clueless

He had a seizure over the weekend and tests so far show he has a malignant brain tumor.
 
I have to say he's an American Political Icon and I'm saddened by the news.
 
 
I never much liked him until I met him once and found him to be very likeable and sociable.  Changed my feelings about him really quick.   What I thought I knew about him was much different than the person I met and talked to over the table.
A mind always employed is always happy. This is the true secret, the grand recipe, for felicity.
Thomas Jefferson

Paul Hoskins

I think he has had that problem ever since he entered politics along with most other politicians.    .............Paul H

Clueless

Well makes me wonder how much misery he's been in for the last year or so?
 
 How many docs has he seen for numerous symptoms that have been called "stress related" or "age related" or "old age migraines" or "maybe you're having TIA (tiny strokes)"
 
A brain tumor isn't something anyone just suddenly has.  They are progressive as they grow with different symptoms.
 
I knew a lady who died with a brain tumor.  Her first symptom was in "reaching to open the screen door she couldn't grab the handle".  She went on to be unable to feed herself and had headaches so bad she couldn't sit up in bed.  But her doc insisted she was "stressed and depressed"
 
Time she finally had a seizure the tumor was the size of a softball.  To late to do anything but chemo and radiation.  She lived 6 months.  6months of pure unadulterated misery.
 
Being a politician has nothing to do with having a brain tumor.
A mind always employed is always happy. This is the true secret, the grand recipe, for felicity.
Thomas Jefferson

RatherBHuntin

Quote from: Clueless;78970He had a seizure over the weekend and tests so far show he has a malignant brain tumor.
 
I have to say he's an American Political Icon and I'm saddened by the news.
 
 
I never much liked him until I met him once and found him to be very likeable and sociable.  Changed my feelings about him really quick.   What I thought I knew about him was much different than the person I met and talked to over the table.


A man's record speaks for itself.  His personality in a short meeting shouldn't be the basis of his reputation.  I've noticed that with most democrats they feel a need to like and be associated with their political leaders, regardless of their actions and record.  Too emotional, not critical or analytical enough.  Likeable and sociable he may be, respected and honest and moral he is not.

Too bad about the brain tumor
Glenn

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Ronald Reagan

gitano

Ted Kennedy has a brain tumor..
 
How could you tell.... ;)
 
Paul
Be nicer than necessary.

Daryl (deceased)

I agree with the above.  Never met the man, so can't speak for his personality.  If he ran a corner convenient store, I might think he was a friendly guy.
 
As for him being a politician, I don't like what he stands for.
 
Too bad about the tumor, and my sympathy to his family.
 
Daryl
A government that abrogates any of the Bill of Rights, with or without majoritarian approval, forever acts illegitimately, becomes tyrannical, and loses the moral right to govern-Jeffrey Snyder
 

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Jay Edward (deceased)

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Take a read:

 My fellow citizens:


  I have requested this opportunity to talk to the people of Massachusetts about the tragedy which happened last Friday evening. This morning I entered a plea of guilty to the charge of leaving the scene of an accident. Prior to my appearance in court it would have been improper for me to comment on these matters. But tonight I am free to tell you what happened and to say what it means to me.
 
  On the weekend of July 18, I was on Martha's Vineyard Island participating with my nephew, Joe Kennedy -- as for thirty years my family has participated -- in the annual Edgartown Sailing Regatta. Only reasons of health prevented my wife from accompanying me.


  On Chappaquiddick Island, off Martha's Vineyard, I attended, on Friday evening, July 18th, a cook-out I had encouraged and helped sponsor for devoted group of Kennedy campaign secretaries. When I left the party, around 11:15 P.M., I was accompanied by one of these girls, Miss Mary Jo Kopechne. Mary Jo was one of the most devoted members of the staff of Senator Robert Kennedy. She worked for him for four years and was broken up over his death. For this reason, and because she was such a gentle, kind, and idealistic person, all of us tried to help her feel that she still had a home with the Kennedy family.
 
  There is no truth, no truth whatever, to the widely circulated suspicions of immoral conduct that have been leveled at my behavior and hers regarding that evening. There has never been a private relationship between us of any kind. I know of nothing in Mary Jo's conduct on that or any other occasion -- and the same is true of the other girls at that party -- that would lend any substance to such ugly speculation about their character.
 
  Nor was I driving under the influence of liquor.
 
  Little over one mile away, the car that I was driving on an unlit road went off a narrow bridge which had no guard rails and was built on a left angle to the road. The car overturned in a deep pond and immediately filled with water. I remember thinking as the cold water rushed in around my head that I was for certain drowning. Then water entered my lungs and I actual felt the sensation of drowning. But somehow I struggled to the surface alive.
 
  I made immediate and repeated efforts to save Mary Jo by diving into the strong and murky current, but succeeded only in increasing my state of utter exhaustion and alarm. My conduct and conversations during the next several hours, to the extent that I can remember them, make no sense to me at all.
 
  Although my doctors informed me that I suffered a cerebral concussion, as well as shock, I do not seek to escape responsibility for my actions by placing the blame either on the physical and emotional trauma brought on by the accident, or on anyone else. I regard as indefensible the fact that I did not report the accident to the police immediately.
 
  Instead of looking directly for a telephone after lying exhausted in the grass for an undetermined time, I walked back to the cottage where the party was being held and requested the help of two friends, my cousin, Joseph Gargan and Phil Markham, and directed them to return immediately to the scene with me -- this was sometime after midnight -- in order to undertake a new effort to dive down and locate Miss Kopechne. Their strenuous efforts, undertaken at some risk to their own lives, also proved futile.
 
  All kinds of scrambled thoughts -- all of them confused, some of them irrational, many of them which I cannot recall, and some of which I would not have seriously entertained under normal circumstances -- went through my mind during this period. They were reflected in the various inexplicable, inconsistent, and inconclusive things I said and did, including such questions as whether the girl might still be alive somewhere out of that immediate area, whether some awful curse did actually hang over all the Kennedys, whether there was some justifiable reason for me to doubt what had happened and to delay my report, whether somehow the awful weight of this incredible incident might in some way pass from my shoulders. I was overcome, I'm frank to say, by a jumble of emotions: grief, fear, doubt, exhaustion, panic, confusion, and shock.
 
  Instructing Gargan and Markham not to alarm Mary Jo's friends that night, I had them take me to the ferry crossing. The ferry having shut down for the night, I suddenly jumped into the water and impulsively swam across, nearly drowning once again in the effort, and returned to my hotel about 2:00 A.M. and collapsed in my room.
  I remember going out at one point and saying something to the room clerk.
 
  In the morning, with my mind somewhat more lucid, I made an effort to call a family legal advisor, Burke Marshall, from a public telephone on the Chappaquiddick side of the ferry and belatedly reported the accident to the Martha's Vineyard police.
 
  Today, as I mentioned, I felt morally obligated to plead guilty to the charge of leaving the scene of an accident. No words on my part can possibly express the terrible pain and suffering I feel over this tragic incident. This last week has been an agonizing one for me and for the members of my family, and the grief we feel over the loss of a wonderful friend will remain with us the rest of our lives.
 
  These events, the publicity, innuendo, and whispers which have surrounded them and my admission of guilt this morning raises the question in my mind of whether my standing among the people of my State has been so impaired that I should resign my seat in the United States Senate. If at any time the citizens of Massachusetts should lack confidence in their Senator's character or his ability, with or without justification, he could not in my opinion adequately perform his duty and should not continue in office.
 
  The people of this State, the State which sent John Quincy Adams, and Daniel Webster, and Charles Sumner, and Henry Cabot Lodge, and John Kennedy to the United States Senate are entitled to representation in that body by men who inspire their utmost confidence. For this reason, I would understand full well why some might think it right for me to resign. For me this will be a difficult decision to make.
 
  It has been seven years since my first election to the Senate. You and I share many memories -- some of them have been glorious, some have been very sad. The opportunity to work with you and serve Massachusetts has made my life worthwhile.
 
  And so I ask you tonight, the people of Massachusetts, to think this through with me. In facing this decision, I seek your advice and opinion. In making it, I seek your prayers -- for this is a decision that I will have finally to make on my own.
 
  It has been written a man does what he must in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles, and dangers, and pressures, and that is the basis of human morality. Whatever may be the sacrifices he faces, if he follows his conscience -- the loss of his friends, his fortune, his contentment, even the esteem of his fellow man -- each man must decide for himself the course he will follow. The stories of the past courage cannot supply courage itself. For this, each man must look into his own soul.
 
  I pray that I can have the courage to make the right decision. Whatever is decided and whatever the future holds for me, I hope that I shall have been able to put this most recent tragedy behind me and make some further contribution to our state and mankind, whether it be in public or private life.
 
  Thank you and good night.  :rolleyes:

 

gitano

I don't know the exact number of hours that lapsed btween the time the car left the bridge, and the time Teddy reported the 'accident', but it was WAY too long, and NOTHING in his prepared speech mitigates or explains that time lapse. EVEN IF his explanation was remotely plausable, I have a more fundamental question: Why didn't the other Kennedys and Kennedy-friends involved in the "rescue" report it to the police immediately?
 
In case anybody's wondering, my question is rhetorical... I already know the answer.
 
Paul
Be nicer than necessary.

greywolf

I can't speak for anyone else , and of course i am not a us citizen , but am familiar with  the incident, i was very young at the time, but i do know it is human nature to conclude to themselves what they believe to be the facts , that said I will not judge the man , guilty or not i wasn't there i can't know for sure, all kinds of things can be said , but in the end only he and maryjo know what happened, so for myself , i will not judge him , I am not god, who is the only one fit to judge anyone . IMHO, *and please , no i'm not pointing fingers at anyone or stirring controversy , just my opinion  as it may be :)
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Paul Hoskins

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